Ossified Entrenched Bureaucracy Types

Alexandria Orb interchange designed on spec for Alexandria and the Commonwealth of Virginia by Douglas A. Willinger

Newsgroups: misc.transport.road, dc.urban-planning

From: Rush Wickes ...@rush-w.com>

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:37:37 -0500

Subject: Re: Woodrow Wilson Bridge: OPEN LETTER of December 16, 2000 to the Alexandria Environmental Policy Commission: Potential Environmental Benefits of Urban Deck (Freeway Lid) and filtration Regarding Noise and Emissions

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:21:52 GMT, "Douglas A. Willinger" wrote:

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>Best Regards

>Douglas A. Willinger
>Takoma Park Highway Design Studio
>Alexandria...@HighwayAndCommunities.com

>Please see the Alexandria Orb at
>http://www.highwaysandcommunities.com

>cc:
>Alexandria Mayor Donley
>Alexandria City Council
>National Park Service
>National Trust for Historic Preservation
>Alexandria Environmental Policy Commission,
>Alexandria Historical Restoration and Preservation Commission
>P.O. Box 178, Alexandria Virginia, 22313
>Alexandria Archaeological Commission
>105 North Union Street
>Friends of Freedmen's Cemetery
>dc.urban-planning
>alt.planning.urban
>alt.planning.transportation
>misc.transport.road
>vg.general
>The Washington Post

I brought up the 'urban helix' proposal innocently at the Transportation Research Board's annual meeting in January. The opinion on Mr. Willinger's behavior from folks tied in with the Wilson Bridge study team was that it was 'crank like'. Just an observation.

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Rush Wickes

Blacksburg, VA

Newsgroups: misc.transport.road, dc.urban-planning

From: Robert ...@gte.net>

Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:30:01 GMT

Local: Mon, Feb 12 2001 7:30 pm

Subject: Re: Woodrow Wilson Bridge: OPEN LETTER of December 16, 2000 to the Alexandria Environmental Policy Commission: Potential Environmental Benefits of Urban Deck (Freeway Lid) and filtration Regarding Noise and Emissions

In article <00tf8tsros2bikqhr5vfso8l45pn90b...@4ax.com>, Rush Wickes

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...@rush-w.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:21:52 GMT, "Douglas A. Willinger"
> ...@idt.net> wrote:

>

> >Best Regards

> >Douglas A. Willinger
> >Takoma Park Highway Design Studio
> >Alexandria...@HighwayAndCommunities.com

> >Please see the Alexandria Orb at
> >http://www.highwaysandcommunities.com

> >cc:
> >Alexandria Mayor Donley
> >Alexandria City Council
> >National Park Service
> >National Trust for Historic Preservation
> >Alexandria Environmental Policy Commission,
> >Alexandria Historical Restoration and Preservation Commission
> >P.O. Box 178, Alexandria Virginia, 22313
> >Alexandria Archaeological Commission
> >105 North Union Street
> >Friends of Freedmen's Cemetery
> >dc.urban-planning
> >alt.planning.urban
> >alt.planning.transportation
> >misc.transport.road
> >vg.general
> >The Washington Post

> I brought up the 'urban helix' proposal innocently at the
> Transportation Research Board's annual meeting in January. The
> opinion on Mr. Willinger's behavior from folks tied in with the Wilson
> Bridge study team was that it was 'crank like'. Just an observation.

Just another observation: Mr. Willinger's ideas are well thought out carefully prepared, clearly presented and innovative. It would be a common reaction from ossified entrenched bureaucracy types to nervously dismiss such as "crank." Remember that the Orb addresses a number of points that were originally considered intractable with the WWB land approaches. Any idea that saves footprint should be considered.

Just another observation. I don't agree with a lot of Doug's ideas but I know better than to dismiss them. I've also been on the other side of the coin and have empathy for his position of "not invented here."

http://groups.google.com/group/dc.urban-planning/browse_frm/thread/f4ab717c90cade6f/1278aa9189a1e4f1?lnk=gst&amp;amp;q=dc.urban-planning&rnum=6&hl=en#1278aa9189a1e4f1